I believe in science and i also believe it doesn%26#039;t has to be necessarily opossite to faith.
PD (Hope your answer will not be: %26quot;such thing will never happen%26quot;, that wouldn%26#039;t be rational, at this time almost everything could happen.)
Changing mind...?
Science and the Bible can work together. But also, people that shun creation have to acknowledge this fact, there is as much proof for creation as evolution, being near none. Every cave man has been discredited, they have found human foot prints right along side dinosaur foot prints, and they have been recently finding out that the way our DNA is set up, we can%26#039;t evolve, it can%26#039;t be changed into another property, another being. Science at parts needs as much faith as God does. I believe God created the earth, I look down at my finger tips, each different than the rest, and each different from every other print on the planet, each snowflake unique from any other that ever fell, and every tree, each leaf on it having it%26#039;s own pattern unlike any other leaf. That can%26#039;t all be just chance to me, that to me, is a creator loving us so much, he made us unique so that we would see how special we are.
Changing mind...?
Reconciling Science and Religion : %26quot;Science and religion [are] no longer seen as incompatible.%26quot;
--%26quot;The Daily Telegraph%26quot;, London - May 26, 1999
http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2002/6/8/article_01.htm
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you forget, for those who deny even the possibility of the Creator it has nothing to do with science, they simply don%26#039;t want to believe. Science, which looks only at the physical, has nothing do to with the spiritual. Also, as you said, we may discover some %26quot;proof%26quot; in the future, we can%26#039;t know. We can%26#039;t even explain how gravity works!
My faith will never change. I believe in God and always will. Nothing will or can change my mind.
I am an Atheist and with definite proof of god I would believe. Although I think that is very unlikely to happen.
i%26#039;m waiting for evidence of God, and if some comes up it wiLL not surprise me
when you said %26quot;things related to faith%26quot; does that just mean anything we don%26#039;t know about for sure? because if it does then by definition there is no way to know any of those things and that wouLd mean faith is awfuL for discovering the truth. i%26#039;m not saying science is perfect, but faith is useLess unLess you using a pLacebo.
Does there have to be scientific evidence to prove or disprove everything? Science hasn%26#039;t really impressed me in the last 2 years anyway.
Why do you have to see everything to believe or not??? I don%26#039;t see and I don%26#039;t know if I believe....
For me, atheism isn%26#039;t about science v god. The idea that all atheists worship at the altar of science is a huge fallacy that%26#039;s become accepted as fact.
Anyway, if science discovered god, and if I were satisfied of the proof, sure I%26#039;d believe it. But even if that happened, I%26#039;m positive that the god they discovered wouldn%26#039;t be anything like the christian conception of it.
If scientific proof of a divinity is found, then I will worship without complaint whichever deity that proof points to.
I am safe, however, in my believe that there is no god because Science cannot answer the question of the existence or nonexistence of God. It%26#039;s defining axiom is that there is no supernatural, or if there is, that that supernatural plays no role in the universe. If it did not accept this as axiomic, it could never logically advance because the rules could change whenever the super natural deemed fit.
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Um, SandyLynn... science creates water in the lab all the time. Heck, we did it in my Jr. High class room.
Grab a balloon. Fill it with 2 moles of diatomic hydrogen molecules. Add 1 mole of diatomic oxygen molecules. Tie the balloon to the end of an eleven foot pole (I wouldn%26#039;t touch this with a ten foot pole, as the joke the teacher used went). Light a flame. Move balloon into flame. Result? BIG HUGE FREAKING BOOM and a spray of water.
Voila. Water created.
its down to the individual. some people could have all the scientific evidence they needed to believe in God and still reject His existence.
%26quot;scientifical evidence of the existence of God is published and diffused%26quot;...WOW! I sure would like to be witness to this occurrence. But most people believe that this wont happen until the %26#039;End of Days%26#039;.
It%26#039;s an interesting question Angel but I believe that those who already believed will still continue to and those who don%26#039;t will also continue to do the same. Even if irrefutable evidence was presented, you are not going to change many peoples minds either way. Some things, such as religion is so ingrained into some people at an early age and it is hard to change life long beliefs. Would it change my feelings personally? I would have to see what they came up with. I am not saying I%26#039;m not open to changing my mind, I would just have to see exactly what it is and them form my own opinion of it.
Most atheists were at one time Christians, so they%26#039;ve already changed their mind based on evidence against it, as well as lack of evidence for it.
If there were some magical way to find evidence of God that withstood peer-review, I%26#039;d certainly take it into consideration.
All of the current evidence, however, suggests that there was no %26quot;creator%26quot;, and if there was, he was stupid and incompetent.
i think that even if that kind of evidence came forward, alot of people wouldnt listen to it, and discredit it to keep with their own beliefs..
just the same as with the evidence of evolution... people will still choose not to believe in scientific things
I%26#039;ve always said this - I don%26#039;t believe in God because I%26#039;ve never found any evidence, scientific or otherwise, that he exists, only evidence that a lot of people want him to exist. If valid proof were presented to me that he does exist, I would gladly believe. I%26#039;m a reasonable person.
But let%26#039;s be clear about this - it%26#039;s not going to happen. Science doesn%26#039;t prove Judeo-Christian belief systems. It merely takes observable facts and produces reasonable, natural conclusions from them. God %26#039;exists%26#039; entirely outside that system.
Come talk to me when you have one single shred of verifiable evidence supporting religion. Until then quit knocking science and the scientific method, it may not be perfect, but we are working on perfecting it every day.
You are still preaching from the same piece of garbage that states that the world is flat, stands on pillars, is the center of the universe, proclaims that beetles have 4 legs, rabbits chew their cud and that PI has an absolute value of 3.
You call that rational?
I also feel that the existence of God, and the fact that he is in fact the Creator is obvious. His works are clearly seen through the detail, complexity and beaty that he has made everything.
If science were to prove the existence of God (which I don%26#039;t think will happen because there is no way [in my opinion] for them to go beyond the laws of men, because the One who set the laws, has much higher standards, and they could never even get close to them) it would not make me believe more, because my faith is already well established, and if humans have to see and prove for themselves physically that something exists, they need to examine their other senses and a little something called humility and faith (that is well founded of course) and look at things objectively instead of so subjectively.
The Bible, (which is another proof of God because it contains who he is, what his purposes are and what he has done) accurately says that %26quot;God is a Spirit%26quot;. (John 4:24). It also says that his thoughts and ways are higher than ours.
So we humans really are no one to assume that we have all the answers and if we cannot find the answer that it simply cannot exist or transpire, because that is not only selfish but really foolish and ignorant thinking.
There%26#039;s already evidence wherever you look. Scientists have been trying for years to re-create water in the lab. They know what it%26#039;s made of, but have yet to create it with those elements. A scientist has yet to create a tree. Even they have to start with a seed. We all know what things are made of, yet we can%26#039;t create something out of nothing. God has proven Himself over and over, but people are too stubborn to admit that He is Who He is, because they would have to admit that they need Him. Many people don%26#039;t want to admit their own weakness, or that they have need of anything. That%26#039;s what it boils down to. Besides where would faith fit in if all this evidence was laid out? Hebrews 11:1 says %26quot;Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen%26quot;. That says it pretty clear. I already admit the fact that God is. I don%26#039;t need any proof from any scientist or agency. I have all I need to know that He is Who He said He is, by the faith that God gave me. %26lt;*)))%26gt;%26lt;
If I understand you correctly, you were asking how would I feel if scientific evidence were presented that possibly proved the existence of God, and was later disproved?
Personally, I would be devastated. I also think that we would see mass suicides worldwide. I think a lot of people don%26#039;t realize or underestimate how much people depend on God to make it from day to day. Without Him, all hope for everything is lost. I think you could then say the world would come to an end.
Belief in God really has nothing to do with science. They might find evidence in the future that proves that stories from the Bible took place, but I don%26#039;t think that they will ever find physical proof that there is a God, or that he walked on Earth in human form. Science is all about tangible proof that you can feel with your hands and analyze with computers. It is all about using your mind to prove that something is true and share it with the world. Science is a mystery waiting to be solved. There is no mystery in Religion, especially in Christianity. It is all spelled out for those that take the time to read it. Faith is not a matter of the mind, but a feeling you can only touch with your heart. It is hard for people to believe in something as awesome as God, because it really shows how small we are. God knows every hair on your head, just as he knows every grain of sand on the earth. He knew every choice you would ever make in your life before you were born. Even the bad choices. He loves us unconditionally even though we turned from him. He forgave us, and died for us. That is not something that you can rationalize with graphs and charts. You can%26#039;t test the results with instruments. You must open your heart and believe in all God has done for you, and then you will feel the change, and you will know he is real. Sorry for the little rant.
If evidence came out it would scrutinized. There will always be someone saying the evidence is wrong. There has been proof of ghosts, spirits, ufos...but there will always be skeptics. There is always another explanation. It doesn%26#039;t matter what the evidence says!!!
