I'm just wonder
ing. Many of us come here w
ith the hope of changing opinions, or injecting information to inform or influence others.
I wonder if anyone here has changed their opinions based on reading others questions, information, or answers.
Has Anyone Here Changed Their Mind on Anything?
I don't think I have changed my opinion- but I have learned some things.
Has Anyone Here Changed Their Mind on Anything?
I don't want to change opinions. I'm just here to catch people from the other party in lies so I can call them hypocrites.
I used to be suspicious of McCain, now I support him.
I did, about the time Obama first started his campaign I thought he might be okay, but anyone who puts out the airhead posters that support him on here is no one I want within 100 miles of the white house.
Some questions are %26quot;interesting%26quot;, but I don't think anyone would change their mind based on Yahoo or the media.
Yeah, I thought capitalism should be abolished, but now I realize that using socialism to compensate for its abuses is a better solution all around.
i inform like someone brings up that Clinton murdered someone and i bring up Baxter of Enron was going to testify but just before that they found him in a car with a gunshot wound to the head, WITH UNTRACEABLE BULLETS, AND NO NOTE, as well as defensive wounds on his hands,
ENRON SCANDAL: Was John Clifford Baxter Murdered?
by
Hector Carreon
La Voz de Aztlan
Los Angeles, Alta California - 1/26/2002 - (ACN) Statements made by police investigators, wife Carol Baxter and close associates of ex-Enron executive John Clifford Baxter, whose body was found yesterday morning with a bullet in his head, leads one to think of the possibility that he may have been murdered in order to stop him from divulging incriminating information to a congressional committee investigating the Enron scandal and in which he was due to testify. Certain facts point to a %26quot;professional hit%26quot; and not to a suicide as the mainstream media is reporting. It appears that he was murdered and the killing made to look like a suicide.
The first statement by the police was the very quick conclusion that it was definitely a suicide. The conclusion was made within a few hours of the find of the body a few blocks from his home. Baxter's body was inside his black 2002 Mercedes sedan. The body was found around 2:20 A.M. and a %26quot;definite suicide%26quot; was proclaimed by the police around 10:00 in the morning. The police captain in charge of the immediate investigation proclaimed that Baxter had taken his own life and ordered the body be taken to a local mortuary without an autopsy. A judge had to intervene, at the request of Baxter's family, with a counter order that the body be taken from a Rosenberg funeral home to the county morgue for an official autopsy instead.
The police has reported that a %26quot;suicide note%26quot; was found inside the car and that Baxter's right hand was gripping a 38 caliber revolver. They said that the car was locked and that they had to break the window. The police has refused to show evidence of the %26quot;suicide note%26quot; and have been silent of what the note actually says. The purported %26quot;suicide note%26quot; will be key evidence to determine if Baxter's death was actually murder. There has been no real evidence to prove that the death was a suicide up to this point. The whole scenario stills looks like a set up to make it look like a suicide.
Some of Baxter's friends and acquaintances do not believe that Baxter committed suicide. They say he had to much going for him. He had just made over $35 million dollars selling his Enron stock at its peak and was living a very happy life with his wife Carol and two children, a high school age teenager whom he called J.C. and his preteen daughter Lauren. He owned a multi-million dollar home in an upscale suburb of Houston, Texas called Sugar Land and was enjoying his family excursions in his 70 foot yacht he named Tranquility.
Baxter's friend Michael P. Moran, once general counsel for Enron's gas pipeline group, said, %26quot;As long as I've known Cliff, I never knew him to be a person who was depressed, who would bring it to taking his own life, he was an idea guy in very substantial jobs.%26quot;
%26quot;I just can't figure it out. This just isn't him,%26quot; said another friend, Lyndon Taylor, a Houston executive search consultant who worked with Baxter at Enron.
John Clifford Baxter was an avid yachting enthusiast and a member of Houston Yacht Club. Chuck Buckner, the Commodore of the club, said that Baxter had sold his yacht in the last few weeks and then dropped out of sight after e
xpressing worries that he was in imminent danger. Chuck Buckner said that Baxter's troubles began when he was subpoenaed to testify before a congressional committee investigating the Enron scandal. He had received subpoenas this month from the Senate Government Affairs Subcommittee on Permanent Oversight and Investigation and the House Energy and Commerce Committee. A partner at Ernst %26amp; Young in Houston, Buckner had not seen Baxter since right before Christmas. The last thing Baxter expressed to Buckner was his desire to take longer trips with his family in his yacht.
If the death was not a suicide, who and why would anyone want to murder John Clifford Baxter? What would be the motive? Can it be simply that he knew too much about Enron's multi-billion dollar international dirty dealings. What powerful people could he have implicated in the scheduled congressional hearing? Baxter did not deal in peanuts! He had negotiated the $3-billion purchase of Portland General Electric in 1997 and had worked diligently for Enron in an attempt to sell it to a California entity. California, as we all know, is where the public was ripped off of over $70 billion dollars by Enron and other energy companies in collusion with the state's corrupt politicians. Also, Baxter as Vice Chairman of Enron was charged with selling the corporations's under-performing international assets. Was he selling %26quot;junk companies%26quot; to unsuspecting international investors? Were the phoney Enron %26quot;paper%26quot; companies recently uncovered in Mexico part of the %26quot;portfolio%26quot; Baxter was charged to sell? What did Baxter know? One thing for sure, we will never know!
No, I don't come here to change opinions, just to see what others opinions are.
Don't think I have.
Not really. Every once in a while someone in the opposition does a good job of pointing out when someone on 'my side' has gone over the edge, or made a good sound case for their way of thinking. It does not change my mind so much as keep it open and moderate. But my sense of who is mostly right and who is mostly wrong does not vary much.
Issues don't change
History doesn't change
Hate doesn't change
I give information and not my opinion
